Reply to: besides being a bit skeptical about it, maybe unconsciously I have a certain fear of actually having…
Taygete
one of the easiest ways to do it we've found is to just sit down, and just think of how you would explain a concept to someone speaking out loud. i cant tell you how many times ive had DHCP explained to me while i wasnt real active because taylor is a massive computer nerd and it was just something she felt like saying
the thought of maybe opening a door to something i don't really know about? Maybe fear of starting hallucinating unintentionally or ending up not getting along with him...
Taygete
im not sure what you mean by that? what looks good?
the last part,
Perhaps it will be easier if you can reassure yourself about, uhh,
For example, pretty easy for brain to get along with itself?
It’s past midnight…
@Okammi - jump
ah! yeah, we lean more on the inattentive side so especially when things are going rough focusing on only things we're passionate About is how we get by continuing to constantly talk
4:11 AM
should note constantly talking isn't something you have to do, but just something we personally do
Skyler 🐉
the last part,
Perhaps it will be easier if you can reassure yourself about, uhh,
For example, pretty easy for brain to get along with itself?
It’s past midnight…
@Okammi - jump
ah! yeah, we lean more on the inattentive side so especially when things are going rough focusing on only things we're passionate About is how we get by continuing to constantly talk
I really like this method, i have a lot of things i like that I learned in college and having someone to comment on sounds like fun
Skyler 🐉
the last part,
Perhaps it will be easier if you can reassure yourself about, uhh,
For example, pretty easy for brain to get along with itself?
It’s past midnight…
I honestly probably wouldn't exist if Taylor knew what tulpamancy was at the time she created me, it is an utterly terrifying concept that you may make someone who doesn't get along or opening strange doors, but so far it's been worth it 100% despite our minor disagreements. what exactly are you afraid of with not getting along with them?
I see some guides talking about not forcing too many personality traits on tulpas and letting them develop on their own, but... what if he ends up being extremely annoying? o.o
I'm a very quiet person, I think having someone constantly yelling and arguing in my head would be kind of scary(edited)
I have around 15 people in my system, some of them behaving very differently than myself, and I find that their opposites often compliment my own traits.
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4:26 AM
For example, Iota tends to be very loud and upbeat, but it's never annoyed me, per se. He's loud in a way that isn't grating (you can't particularly screech through thoughts very easily, his voice is still pleasant) and his upbeat attitude tends to help balance out the pessimism of the others without coming off as overbearing.
Okammi
I see some guides talking about not forcing too many personality traits on tulpas and letting them develop on their own, but... what if he ends up being extremely annoying? o.o
I'm a very quiet person, I think having someone constantly yelling and arguing in my head would be kind of scary (edited)
Luminesce: I'm getting closer and closer to just telling people to stop using guides at all, to be honest(edited)
4:27 AM
The tulpa creation process is totally freeform and you shouldn't need anything other than people sharing experiences of what's been possible for them, to aid your expectations(edited)
Okammi
I see some guides talking about not forcing too many personality traits on tulpas and letting them develop on their own, but... what if he ends up being extremely annoying? o.o
I'm a very quiet person, I think having someone constantly yelling and arguing in my head would be kind of scary (edited)
If you share a brain, chances are you'll share similar traits and interests, or at least understand one another enough to not bother each other as much as two singlet friends would.
4:27 AM
You're going to have to get comfortable shitting around them. Turn shitting into group conversation hour, lmao.
Okammi ↩️
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I have around 15 people in my system, some of them behaving very differently than myself, and I find that their opposites often compliment my own traits.
that's pretty unlikely to have them be completely annoying, if they end up chatty you could always ask them to be quiet for a bit, we'd understand getting overwhelmed. Taylor and I get on each other's nerves constantly, but more in a playful way thsn anything else. but she considers me the closest friend she's ever had despite that, and while im still working on making friends, I suspect I'll find the same
In all seriousness, it's not easy or generally beneficial to hide things from your systemmates. You'll learn to get more comfortable with personal things over time, like any relationship. You both share the same body after all, some things, like using the restroom, simply become caring for your collective wellbeing.
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
You're going to have to get comfortable shitting around them. Turn shitting into group conversation hour, lmao.
We personally still often prefer privacy, in which case the others won't talk much. If it's easier to do something without their constant interjection, I'm sure they'd understand and allow you that partial privacy.
Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
We personally still often prefer privacy, in which case the others won't talk much. If it's easier to do something without their constant interjection, I'm sure they'd understand and allow you that partial privacy.
and is there any way to block some thoughts from them? What to do when you have a more intimate moment with someone or, you know, bathroom stuff… lol
@Okammi - jump
you can, it may take some practice, can't remember if we had that right away or not
4:34 AM
though it's sometimes amusing to just be caring for the body and realizing you're having an argument about self-deprecation while on the toilet
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Taygete
that's pretty unlikely to have them be completely annoying, if they end up chatty you could always ask them to be quiet for a bit, we'd understand getting overwhelmed. Taylor and I get on each other's nerves constantly, but more in a playful way thsn anything else. but she considers me the closest friend she's ever had despite that, and while im still working on making friends, I suspect I'll find the same
hi,
Still haven’t put down my phone
It’s not something we’ve ever done, nor do we think it would make sense for brain to be able to block memories from itself at will.
But perhaps you can change your angle. That body now belongs to both of you.
Okammi ↩️
Reply to: and is there any way to block some thoughts from them? What to do when you have a more intimate mome…
Hell, if it helps. you can both pretend to be mech pilots. Taking care of the mech is a joint responsibility, so you shouldn't feel embarrassed about doing so
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4:37 AM
The fabled Flesh Mech
Skyler 🐉
hi,
Still haven’t put down my phone
It’s not something we’ve ever done, nor do we think it would make sense for brain to be able to block memories from itself at will.
But perhaps you can change your angle. That body now belongs to both of you.
you are on discord asking questions about tulpas
Most importantly, phone
Plus probably sleep procrastination.
More sleepy -> poor decision making -> you decide to stay up cuz of whatever little thing you want to keep doing
Okammi ↩️
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I wish I could block out the fact that Atlas eats plain pasta sauce
@Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ - jump
Taylor dips Brownies in orange juice and I guess I'll have to see if it's as bad as everyone makes it out to be, doesn't seem that bad in idea
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I wish I could block out the fact that Atlas eats plain pasta sauce
Hi again!
I think I'm starting to understand
I used to feel a bit frustrated with some of Kai's words (my tulpa) because it seemed like i was the one formulating them; The responses would come very quickly and directly, without seeming to have been thought about beforehand-
For example: maybe i got distracted by something and then out of nowhere thought about "drinking water.”
And then, in the same instant, i heard his voice in the background saying "Shouldn't you drink some water?”
Generally, i would assume that his response was automatic to what i had thought, but could it also be his own line of thought?
Luminesce: Definitely, and it's important to designate "could-be-your-tulpa" thoughts to really believe are them learning to speak independently from you, as promoting the sense of "That's my tulpa speaking/thinking, not me" is key to developing the feeling of separateness from you(edited)
12:25 PM
However they feel early on, just keep intending for them to be separate/independent from your thoughts, and they should start to get there over time
So hi! I have a question. (I want to say sorry if I'm wrong about something or if I phrased my question incorrectly.)
So I have been succesfully forcing for two month, and at start of second I recieved a lot of emotioanl responses from my tulpa(like I actually feel them every day Im talking to her.)
In one week after well I got some other kind of responces, like some kind of moving fingers on fully relaxed hand while forcing.
And the thing is I want to ask is any good method or advice for vocality. Because well we tried a lot of stuff already but I still have feeling im doing something wrong.
(the thing i can hear some of her words when im having any powerfull emotions such as happiness etc, and sometimes I could hear few words well when Im almost asleep or just woke up, but it happens very rarely and well I didnt heard any for last two weeks)
Talk to your tulpa, intending for them to be listening and wanting to respond
Accept thoughts that seem like they could-be your tulpa as your tulpa developing vocality, even if they're not fully convincing, and as long as you're holding the intent for them to be from your tulpa they'll become more separate feeling and sounding over time
Eventually your tulpa's thoughts/voice should be completely unmistakeable for your own
It's also fine (a good thing even) to say "That wasn't my tulpa, they wouldn't want to say that" or "That was just a random (possibly invasive) thought, not my tulpa" when appropriate
To help shape your brain's expectations for what should and should not be your tulpa
8:55 AM
Basically the exact advice we give to anyone learning tulpamancy at this point
8:55 AM
Preferably, just this should be enough instruction for anyone, to then figure out the rest on their own (because what comes to you naturally tends to work out better than what others say)
yeah a lot of guides are just a lot of fluff and not much practical advice, i think it would be helpful if you made a small pdf with what you said here and just have it handy for newcomers
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10:05 AM
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